Family Information on Thiele from Puffahrt

Again Puffahrt contributed here at this Hannover mailing list. I share today because Schoop and Wiese maybe had connection to a Thiele or Theide tree. According to a tree I saw at ancestry.com

Date: 2007/12/26 13:09:19

From: Manfred PUFFAHRT

Guten Tag,

folgendes zu THIELE in der Hausliste von Hitzacker ( Insel):

Georg Aug. THIELE, SEILER, Bürger seit 19.6.1816, Senator

wohnh. 1828 – 1844

Sohn von

Joh. Karl Elias Thiele, Seilermeister, Bg. seit 5.11.1785

geb. in Braunschweig, 1796 Bürgervorsteher

wohnh. 1786 - 1827

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Manfred Puffahrt

Note:    Is Seiler a occupation or surname?

I still love you Puffahrt

Good evening,

I thought I'd do a little post on what I saw about a Bauche and Seil surname from Manfred Puffahrt at the Hannover list that I missed a few years back. As you have seen, I have done a page about some surnames at Buendorf. [Listing the Link here for review]

I was sorry I had not seen what Pam Sulliven had said with some great amount of history, that I'll have to share later as well from here.

Date: 2007/12/11 18:38:21
From: Manfred .Puffahrt......

Guten Abend,  folgendes gefunden:  oo 1743 Nahrendorf  Hans Dietrich Bauche, weil. Gust Jürgen Bauche gew. Hauswirt in Buendorf Sohn,  ist dem 9 ten Februar mit Dorothea Seilen, Johann Wilhelm Seil Hauswirt u. Müller in Tangsehl nachgelassene Witwe, copoliert  Joh. Wilhelm Seil * 1701/ +1741  Mit freundlichen Grüßen  Manfred Puffahrt

Note: There must be someone in the Seil family history with the name Wihelm that Johann Heinrich and his wife Ilse Maria Seil named him after in Babtism.

Recently I noticed something about Tangsehl that caught my eye at Geneanet.org. I guess I should look again. I think it was Puffahrt and the surname Mueller. I just recently signed up there under arootdigger. Maybe If i get some work done in my office I can hop over there and add some information. Who knows whom it might attract.

GENEALOGY UPDATE ON PUFFAHRT - PUFFERT

I condensed this letter for a change, written to me after I had made a query at the message boards at Ancestry.com. My Query was in regards to a Wilhelm Puffahrt passenger along with the AUGUST GROTE /DEIDRICH AHRENS family immigration in 1889 from Oldendorf to Iowa. The link is to this post I did on that immigration.

Surnames: Puffert, Schroeder

I came across your posting in the process of researching
my own family history.
I believe that Wlm PUFFAHRT was my grandfather,
William Frederick PUFFERT. Henry SCHROEDER was his step-father,
Heinrich Schroeder. They did come to America in April of 1889.
My grandfather's mother was Magdalene PUFFAHRT.
She was unmarried at the time of his birth (1872) and married
Heinrich SCHROEDER in 1873/1874 in Germany.
Which family are you interested in?
I have a small amount of information on the
SCHROEDERS in America and much more on the Pufferts.
My mother was a daughter of William PUFFERT.

So there is my answer about why William Puffahrt was
traveling with the group. I suspect she may have a little
more information on the Schroeders. I must remember to ask her.

See as they say on television. You only have to begin looking.
Isn't genealogy wonderful.

Genealogy : More about PUFFAHRT, PUFFERT, SCHROEDER, NAEFKE, BALLSTADT, GRADE, McVAY, RICHERT.

This letter is more or less a follow up on another letter posted here in review and more detailed about this Schroeder family, with many surnames in their family history. Now those are the kind of letters to read. You gotta luv em!

Wlm Puffahrt and Henry Schroeder. came on Marsala 1889 -

[localities.northam.usa.states.iowa.counties.calhoun]
[laurenelundberg]Posted: 8 Jul 2010 8:38PM
Surnames:
PUFFAHRT, PUFFERT, SCHROEDER, NAEFKE, BALLSTADT, GRADE, McVAY, RICHERT.

Wilhelm Friedrich PUFFAHRT anglicized his name
to William Frederick PUFFERT when he arrived in the U.S.
He was born in Hanover, Germany on April 11, 1872 to
Magdalena PUFFAHRT. (Born Feb 18, 1848; died Oct 18, 1916)
She was unmarried at the time. At the end of 1873 or first part
of 1874 Magdalena PUFFAHRT married Heinrich Schroeder.

They had three children together: Henry SCHROEDER (11/15/1874 - 3/6/64),
Emma SCHROEDER (7/28/1877 - 7/23/52), and
Ida SCHROEDER (9/5/1879-11/30/67)

The Schroeders and William PUFFERT arrived in the U.S. on April 1, 1889.
Heinrich died in February of 1890. The family lived in Iowa.

Henry SCHROEDER married Doretta NAEFKE (9/11/1882-1/18/57). They made their home in Iowa.

They had three children: Hilda Schroeder(3/25/1910-6/23/8x)
who never married and lived out her life in Iowa.
Leona Schroeder (7/10/1912-?) who never married and
moved to Denver, CO. and Clarence Schroeder (7/26/1919 -?)who married Helen GRADE (4/15/1922-?) in 1946.
I believe they worked the farm that Heinrich Schroeder had in Iowa.
Their children were Jeanene born Sep 14, 1948, Clarice born July 6, 195x, and Lanette born Aug 29, 196x.
My mother, Alma Puffert FRINK, corresponded with both Hilda and Leona Schroeder into at least the early 1980's.
The correspondence has been lost.
Emma Schroeder married Albert BALLSTADT (6/2/1871-7/21/1942).
They had two children: Caroline (11/28/1898-8/9/198x) and Edna (10/9/1900-4/14/48). Caroline did not marry. Edna married Raymond McVAY.
I believe they remained in Iowa as well. Ida Schroeder did not marry.

Some of the Schroeders eventually moved from the farm to Fort Dodge, IA. I'm pretty sure that Hilda lived in Fort Dodge.

William PUFFERT was trained in church architecture and building before he left Hanover, Germany. He built a Lutheran church in Knierim, Iowa in 1897, St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Boone, IA in 1898, and St. Paul's Lutheran in Douglas, WA in 1915.
William m. Margaretha RICHERT in Boone, IA on Dec 14, 1899.
(Margaret and her family emigrated from Alsace-Lorraine, Germany
in 1881 on the St. Lorent.
Her grandfather, Jacob RICHERT, was born in Gottesheim,
Germany in 1821).

William and Margaret's children were:
Edwin Henry born Boone, IA (9/15/1900-3/9/7x),
Otto Frederick born Boone, IA (7/26/02-5/12/9x),
Alma Emilie born Spokane, WA (2/12/05-7/2/200x), Lillie Viola born Spokane, WA(8/17/07-12/21/7x),
Harold Richard born Spokane, WA (5/4/10 - 7/29/9x),
Lora Marie born Colbert, WA (8/27/14-4/23/7x), and
Lois Margaret born Douglas, WA (4/1/18-present).

I have supporting evidence for the marriage of William and Margaret in Boone, IA, but that is about all the real documentation. Where did you find the information that the Schroeders came across on the Marsala in 1889?

laurenelundberg

Well that was nice, well done research, a good relay in a letter. I wish every ones were like that. And with a prompt follow up. I took a stand for privacy issues here. I have the letter stored in another place. And of course you can see for yourself at Ancestry.com.

Note: Some of the Schroeder family of Reading township had asked that I publish a little of the information that I have gained over the years. This is just one of them. I hope to continue with it now and then.

just me jo arootdigger

Puffahrt - I like you a whole bunch -- Gerstenkorn, Meyer, Barge

I take the hard work of Manfred Puffahrt to share for all our benefit, and he does not mind. Again I take this material from older issues of the Hannover Kingdom mailing list.
Date: 2007/07/01 19:32:29

He wrote "Guten Abend,
ich suche noch was zu Gerstenkorn
aus Ellringen bei Dahlenburg.

Bis jetzt bekannt:
Anna Dorothea Gerstenkorn
* 5.12.1756 in Ventschau /
+ Haar 1784

Eltern : Heinrich Gerstenkorn
Hw. in Ventschau
u. Marie Elisabeth geb. Schröder
oo 8.7.1748 Nahrendorf

Hinrich Gerstenkorn,
Sohn des Colo. in Ellringen Leonhard G.
mit Marie Elisabeth Schröder
( wwe. Meyer ) Tochter des Heinrich Schröder
Hw. in Ventschau
Heinrich Gerstenkorn + 22.9./ 24.9.1769 61 J.alt
Ventschau / Nahrendorf (
*1708 Ellringen )

Marie E. Schröder * 9.9.1707 Ventschau

P: Marie Ilsalbe Tädern u.
Elisabeth Steinhauer aus Ventschau
Hans Kriel aus Brese
Hinrich Schröder + 9.2.1751
Ventschau / Nahrendorf
He concluded properly.I am so glad he was sharing.

...........................

KB Stapel folgende Trauungen gefunden:
oo 5.3.1881
Anderson, Hans August Arbeitsmann in Stapel
mit Meinke, Auguste Wilhelmine
oo 10.12.1876
Roloff, Joh. Heinrich Arbeitsmann in Haar
mit
Anderson, Mar. Christina aus Gr.Kühren.                                                                                                                                                                                                  He concluded his letter properly of course, 

Note: I am already paying attention to the villages by Hitzacker and those of Dannenberg. What is important about his information for me is the location of Gerstenkorn at Ellringen. Schroder of Ventschau. Ties to our beloved Nahrendorf. [ I must not forget the new information I have received of the Wittig / Thiele family tree.- Ged bas.] I wonder why he capitalized In.

Puffahrt - I Like You A Whole Bunch

Wow, Today we get his newest posting involving Barscamp, and Walmsburg with some of our family names. - Saucke, Meyer.See, he knows I am interested in this. Perhaps I should question why I have not looked into the Famnord list.??From my collection of Manfred Puffahrt's postings dated
Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:31:57 +0200
[HN] Subject: + Barskamp
It was directed to "Famnord Liste" , "Hannover Liste" . I made the usual changes for my pages.


He wrote:
"Guten Tag,
mal was aus Barskamp(+).
Claus Jürgen SAUCKEE
Hw. in Tosterglope + 24.10./ 26.10.1797 79 J.a.
Franz Jürgen MEYER
Hw. in Walmsburg 19.2./22.2.1811 51,2 J.a.
Jürgen Hinrich SAUCKE
At. In Tosterglope 7.6./10.6.1814 63 J.a.
Jürgen Hinrich SAUCKE
Em. in Tosterglope +3.2./6.2.1815 35 J.a.
Kath. Elisabeth MEYER
(~geb. Westedt) 19.10./21.10.1848 73,5,15 J.a.
wwe. Claus Jürgen MEYER
Hw. aus BruchdorfEngel Elisabeth BANSE
geb. Meyer 30.11./3.12.1819 74,4 J.a.
Wwe. des Jürgen Wilhelm Banse
Hw.in BruchdorfSuche noch zu den Personen was von H. Borstelmann.Mit freundlichen Grüßen
M. Puffahrt"

Source: From rootsweb Hannover Kingdom mailing list issues. Probably online still. Manfred Puffahrt at t-online dot de.

Puffahrt - I like you a whole bunch. Familiennamen,

Manfred Puffahrt shares Familiennamen of Bleckede fut it is different than the usual clip: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:19:46
" Jüdische Fiedhöfe u. mehr"

"Guten Tag,

wer kennt dieses Buch?
Jüdischer Friedhof Bleckede.
LANDKREIS: Lüneburg
ADRESSE: in der Bürgerforst
BELEGUNGSZEIT: 1752 - 1935
GRABSTEINE: 33
DOKUMENTATION:
1980-1982 durch Linde Weiland im Auftrag der Stadt Uelzen (Fotos,
Abschrift, Übersetzung: alle Steine)
VERÖFFENTLICHUNGEN: Volldokumentation in Busch 1996, S. 266-301.
Busch 1996
Erich WOEHLKENS, Lisa Kuhlmann, Beate L. WEILAND: Beiträge zur
Geschichte der Juden in Uelzen und Nordostniedersachsen. Hrsg. für die
Stadt Uelzen von Ralf BUSCH. Oldenburg 1996, 420 S.
Enthält:
- Volldokumentation: Bleckede, Bodenteich, Dannenberg, Hitzacker,
Schnackenburg, Uelzen, Wittingen
- Geschichte: Bergen, Bevensen, Ebstorf, Suderburg

mfg.

M. Puffahrt"


More of his information might be found here.

http://www.ahnenforschung-genealogie.de/schreib03_12.htm

More information from Manfred Puffahrt - Hannover liste

Otto Puffahrt, a relative  of Manfred's wrote several books
about the area of Bleckede and areas along the Elbe river.
On  17 Mar 2010 13:19   the subject was
oo Witzeetze / Bahrendorf. We should always pay attentionto Witzeetze. 

"Guten Tag,
Fundsachen aus dem Ksp. Witzeetze / Bahrendorf
1700
Im diesen Jahr haben Hochzeit gehalten
1.)Henning BARGE mit Sophia Hedwig GRIEBEN
2.) August SCHULT zu Pommau mit Margarthea TREIL.
3.)Hans Jürgen WESECK in Drethem mit
Cath. Elisabeth MANECKEN

7.Okt.1704 hat Hans CARSTEN aus Pommau hochzeit
gehalten in Privelack
6.Nov.1704 hat Leonhard Christian Neuß hochzeit
gehalten mit Anna Sophia
KUFERS aus Privelack
(Kufers = Kufut 1680 in Privelack / Ksp. Stapel)
21. gbris hat Andreas SCHULTZEN aus
Bahrendorf mit Lucia ... R...
hochzeit gehalten

Year 1717
10 xbri ist Lenert Neuß mit
Cath. Ilselbe MARTENS   ( Seite 25)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
M. Puffahrt"

Puffahrt - I like you a whole bunch Familienahmen, Familie Geschichte

I belong to a Hannover Kingdom mailing list available from Rootsweb.
I just live for Familiennahmen, family history posts by people like Manfred Puffahrt, who have
people in this Lueneburg Stadt area of Hanover. Goehrde, Bleckede,
Hitzacker, etc.
What you see here is one of his postings. I collect these Surnames and locations just like I collect gold and collectibles at Farmville at facebook.

I have separated residents and their villages and posted that at another page.
Some of the pages are currently in "Edit" at the moment
my intent is to separate people and add them  to a page under
the village that they live in. I hope to add some kind of symbol
maybe designating what tree they belong to, and or source of my information.
If  you have any helpful suggestions they would be welcome.
These surnames are as good as gold at Farmville. Some of these might be repeat family history.
KARSTENS, KRUSE, MEYER, BRAND, SOLTAU, NEHRING.



The Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:52:10  Witzeetze / Bahrendorf
Witzeetze / Bahrendorf Tr 1840

Franz Heinr. KARSTENS, Schutschur
(V: + Hausw. Hans Heinr., M: +
Sophie Magd.  KRUSE) - Cath. Dor. Magd. MEYER
(V: + Einw. Christ.
Dietr., Tiessau, M: Cath.  Magd. BRAND)
- cop. Hitzacker 24.1.

Joh. Heinr. LAMPE, Hirte in Kl.Kühren
(V: + N., Hirte in Tollendorf,
M: N.  Gause) - Mar. Cath. CRAMER geb. KARSTENS,
Wwe Joh. Georg Heinr.
KRAMER in  Kl.Kühren - cop. 6.2.

Joh. Heinr. Lütkens, Einw. in Kl.Kühren,
Wwer der Dor. Elis. BREESE
- Marie  Dor. SOOP
(V: + Hausw. Joh. Friedr. Heinr., Drethem,
M: Mar.Dor. Blücher) -  cop. 6.2.

Joh. Jürg. Wilh. KARSTENS, Hausw.
in Tollendorf (V: Hausw. Joh.
Heinr. Wilh.,  M: Anna Elis. TIPPE)
- Dor. Elis. HAUL (V: Hausw. Joh.
Heinr., Glienitz, M:  Cath. Magd. SOLTAU)
- cop. Hitzacker 8.2.

Franz Heinr. Breese, Kötner in Glienitz,
Wwer der Marie Dor. NEHRING
- Helene  Sophie HERDERS
(V: + Hausw. Andreas Heinr., Bredenbock, M: +
Marg. Marie SCHULZ)  - cop. Hitzacker 25.3.

Jürgen Heinr. Joachim BREESE -
J. Marie Elis. ROSSENBURG, etc.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
M. Puffahrt

Comment:
Do not forget there was a Puffahrt name roped
in with a Farmville colonist.
My Particular interest here is Breese, Glienitz,
Schutzchur [Schulz], and Witzeetze. Nehering,
Do you suppose Fehring could have been Nehring.
Maybe. But the 'n' of the  alphabet in old
writing does  not look like  a 'F'.
Time will tell.

SOURCE;  Hannover l [liste] [at] genealogy.net [Rootsweb Mailing list called Hannover Kingdom]

Emigration 1889 schiff Marsala Passengers were August Grote, Heinrich Schroeder, David Naefke vom Oldendorf nach Iowa

MARSALA PASSENGERS -
GROTE, NAFKE, AHRENS








Click on the Images for a larger view.




The 29.03.1889 Passenger list of ship Marsala says clearly they were from Oldendorf on their way to Iowa.








August Gradt = Grote age 40.
David Nafke or David Naefke age forty, [should be Diedrich]
wife Dorothea age 35.
Wilhelm Putfahrt
Heinrich Schroeder 50 years old laborer
Wife - frau Maria Instead of Kate. age 40

The USA Federal Census of 1900 says that Dick Naefke,
Heinrich Schroeder were residents of Reading township
in Calhoun county, Iowa.

August Grote went to Dawson in Greene county, Iowa.

Iowa State Census, 1895
Census & Voter Lists

Name: August Grote
Age: 46
Race: White
Birthplace: Germany
RESIDENCE: Dawson, Greene

This is August Grote provided to me by Mark Kuhlman.
the source is the
1982 Calhoun county Iowa book. Taylor Publishing company.
By Historical Society of Rockwell city Historians.



There was a Henry Schroeder at Calhoun. However, I do not think it is the same one.
That Henry Schroeder was born Oct. 1855. His wife Kate was born Oct. 1865.
Mary Schroeder wife of Fred Schroeder was born Jan 1848. I have been told anyway that Fred Schroeder immigrated around July fourth 1883 and went to see his friend Fred Meyer at Churdan swamps and stayed the winter with him. [ Imagine how glad Fred would be to see an old friend.]

Census Henry Schroeder was age 50. The wife mentioned was age 40. There were several children. Even a little Henry.

These surnames were entwined in America.
Note: For update explanation on the PUTFAHRT or PUFAHRT,PUFFAHRT see the link.

Note: For More about Schroeder immigration see those from Mucklingen and Dahlenburg with Warnecke and Seil. May 1883.